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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I didn't think this needed a whole new thread, even though it's not actually a bug and more of a balancing issue.
Trogs are way too hard to kill. There's almost never an opening, because they move so quickly.
I just went through the Water Palace and actually LOST experience by the end of it because I died so much.

I suggest that any time there's a group of Trogs, one should be removed.
That should fix it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

PurpleSquerkle wrote:
I didn't think this needed a whole new thread, even though it's not actually a bug and more of a balancing issue.
Trogs are way too hard to kill. There's almost never an opening, because they move so quickly.
I just went through the Water Palace and actually LOST experience by the end of it because I died so much.

I suggest that any time there's a group of Trogs, one should be removed.
That should fix it.

Just use some ranged weapon against them, they're really easy to kill then. If you don't have any ranged weapons, try it with a shield and a melee weapon. If you don't have a shield, go get one crazy boy! ...what I want to say is, with the right equipment, they're easy. And since the water palace no longer is the first palace you have to play, getting the right equipment before entering it should be pretty possible.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Oh, it's not the first anymore?
Never mind then, that's fine.

I only had one bow, and I was saving the arrows for the Blind Spots in the Shadow Palace -- which -- guess what? I beat!!
For the first time ever. Yay!
...It really wasn't very hard. I just never tried much before.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I think Trogs do leave themselves open after going too close you when you block too much. They usually try to move themselves to a further range to continue attacking.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

The trogs in Water Palace... They kill me with two hits. I used the Mystic I made and she is 5th level... And equipment was: Book of fireball and Crossbow... I attacked them, and the crossbow ones just killed me... What if the ones near the start point would be... moved? Some of them?
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Since it's your Mystic, Maybe it's not balanced (Stat wise) enough to take on the trogs?
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Well, it is balanced... I think. Zefz can now that, I think. Maybe you can too, here is the data.txt...

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Class name : Mystic
Uniform light : FALSE
Maximum ammo : 0
Current ammo : 0
Gender : FEMALE

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Mana return up : 1.00-1.00
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Mana flow up : 1.00-1.00
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STR up : 0.00-1.00
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WIS up : 1.00-4.00
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INT up : 0.00-1.00
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DEX up : 1.00-2.00

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Flashing AND : 255
Alpha blending : 255
Light blending : 255
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Sheen : 0
Phong mapping : FALSE
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Texture Y add : 0.00
Sticky butt : FALSE

Invictus : FALSE
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NonI angle : 0
I facing : 0
I angle : 14000

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S damage shift : 1 2 2 2
C damage shift : 1 1 1 1
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E damage shift : 1 1 3 3
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I damage shift : 1 1 1 1
Z damage shift : 1 1 1 1
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C damage code : F F F F
P damage code : F F F F
H damage code : T T T T
E damage code : F F F F
F damage code : F F F F
I damage code : F F F F
Z damage code : F F F F
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EXP for 3rd : 800
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EXP for 5th : 4000
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EXPDARE : 0.00
EXPKILL : 0.40
EXPMURDER : 0.00
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EXPTEAMWORK : 0.60
EXPROLEPLAY : 1.00

IDSZ Parent : [HUMA]
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IDSZ Vulnie : [NONE]

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Is a mount : FALSE
Is stackable : FALSE
Name known : TRUE
Usage known : TRUE
Is exportable : FALSE
Requires skill : FALSE
Is platform : FALSE
Collects money : TRUE
Can open stuff : TRUE

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Attack type : ZAP

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Left valid : TRUE
Right valid : TRUE

Part on weapon : TRUE
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Facing add : 8192
Part type : 3

Blood valid : FALSE
Part type : 0

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Bounce dampen : 0.600

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Mana cost : 1.000
Life return : 0
Stopped by : 48
Skin 0 name : a_fortune_teller's_robe
Skin 1 name : beard
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Skin 3 name : SKIN
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STR dampen : 0.000

No rider attak : FALSE
Can be dazed : TRUE
Can be grogged : TRUE
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NOT USED : 0
Can see invisi : FALSE
Kursed chance : 0
Footfall sound : -1
Jump sound : 10

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:[DRES] 2
:[DRES] 3
:[CKUR] 1
:[PLAT] 1
:[SKIN] 0
:[CONT] 0
:[STAT] 0
:[LEVL] 4

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

It must be because you were using the first armor, which is very weak.
Even Wizards have more defensive armors than that.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Oh, oh, well, let's put the second armor somewhere... OH! The Mystic is not in the game... Crying or Very sad Well, well... Ummm... Hard. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

You should keep working on the Mystic.
Will it really have a beard? Wonder
Oh, and does your Angel even need any more work, or is it totally ready? Defined skills, finished starter, ability, etc...
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

The Mystic has beard. "She" would turn to "he" at some level. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

No, that's just creepy. Very.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Well, no then. And the Angel is ready. Fully. No more work in it. It only needs to be added to the game... And items for it in shops... Armors in some modules... BIG WORK! Shocked Oh, and Purple, that goes for Vampyre, too?
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Nah. Needs to be able to fly.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

PurpleSquerkle wrote:
Nah. Needs to be able to fly.


Which? Vampyre or Angel? Angel has it, I mean... Small trips. No high. Just the jump thing, like you suggested, so you made the uniqueness of the Angel... I just made it another divine spellcaster with different model... Embarassed
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