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woodmouse · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:02 am Post subject:

Shadow palace... Umh... The Darkshine Knights... I don't like to fight them. I just lure them to a pit... They fall... And die... It's strange that allmost all enemies kill themselfs... Laughing

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Clonkinator · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:14 am Post subject:

Darkshine Knights levitate. They don't fall into pits.

Anyway, the only things hard in the shadow palace are:
1. The blind spots. Unless you have any kind of ranged weapon (which you should have), they're really hard to kill without getting yourself killed (although it's possible). If I don't have any ranged weapons, I usually just ignore that one over the pit since I know that there's a pit, and just stay near the walls.
2. The darkness. If you have to hold a torch, you can only hold one real weapon or book. Same with a lamp. A book of fairy light is the best here, although it wastes mana.
3. The darkshine knights. If you don't have any axes or shield-piercing spells, fighting against five of them at the same time is hard.
4. The gas traps. If you don't know them and are out of healing potions, you're pretty much dead if you are hit by one.

...which is why I'd want the shadow palace to come as the third one. 'till that point, you usually should have gathered some ranged weapons and a source of light already, which makes this level relatively comfortable to beat. Plus, if you take all the keys, you can keep some of them for the other palaces to either get through them more quickly, or to get more stuff from the sand palace. Heh.
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woodmouse · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:18 am Post subject:

They fall into pits. And I hate blind spots. And gas traps.
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Zefz · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

Water Palace is harder too because it is the first one. You are lowest level, low equipment and not access to Bishopia.

Do we need some sum up on the adjustments that might need to be done to make the palaces more balanced?

This could include damage, life and armor increases or decrease. More importantly, I could improve the AI, making monsters smarter and/or giving them new abilities.

A few ghouls in the Shadow Palace could be replaced with Ghuuls maybe?
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woodmouse · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject:

hiroy · The Dark One Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 703

Darkshine Knights cannot fall into pits. Try again.

I don't know bout you guys, but I always kill blinds spots with a sword. They stagger quite easily....

As for balance, it seems fine but I personally think that the Squids are pretty hard for a class like the Healer. This is because you there is barely any options of recovery in there unless you save your potions. Healers also have range and AoE issues in the beginning. They are so limited with 1 vs 1 weaponry, it's tough to take out Trog mobs alone.

Shadow Palace needs something, but not no Ghuuls. It's fine from my standpoint.....

Sand Palace... Well... I want mummies(ignore me).

Ash Palace is fine.

Ice Palace. Here's an idea. Squids doen't really match here. How about some kind of ice monster(Squids with different skin), that does that counter that Wizard does in Bishopa and freezes you completely for a few seconds. Add about 6 or 5 in the ice room and add a locked door that opens when they are killed. The Snow troll could use an ability that allows him to blast ice needles from the ground at mid range(does incredible damage and knock back when hit. stays on the feild and blocks you way, and only the troll can break right through them.)
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Zefz · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:09 am Post subject:

The Healer was designed to be a team player. See her standing behind a Soldier with a spear or ranged weapon against the squids. I believe they would be pretty dead after a short time.

I tuned the Ghuuls down a lot by the way. They do not come back to life anymore when killed.

I redid the Ice Lizards. They are improved and have the freezing ability you mention. I agree the Yeti needs something more.
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Clonkinator · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:25 am Post subject:

I already wanted to post this message yesterday, after Zefz' post, but I got a "this site does not exist" again... Anyway.

Agent of Dread · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:

I fully agree.
Also, while we're on the Water Palace, there is a bug after you raise the water level, the Squidgie dropper leaves a message "%n is in the passage" and I don't think it's meant to.
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Zefz · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject:

Oh. If I will fix that if I remember it.
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Agent of Dread · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject:

God, the damn Watcher killed me in two shots, 10HP, Breasplate.
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Zefz · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject:

If I remember correctly, I buffed him up in a previous update Razz

Too much?
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Agent of Dread · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:51 am Post subject:

I think so.
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PurpleSquerkle · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject:

I've always found the Watcher very weird.
Like it doesn't take much to kill it, but it can kill YOU really easily.
I died sooo many times on him.
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woodmouse · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject:

Is there a Watcher in Water Palace!? Shocked

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